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Just interested in other people's methods or brain storming strategies for finding titles. Example...synonym vs antonym, word play, figurative language or even resources used such as book titles, movie dialogue.

And by titles I mostly mean 'ideas' (as in take a color or noun and associate it with something etc)

 

I write mostly pop but I notice from a distance my titles tend to be veering closer to generic territory and there seems to be a heavier emphasis on unique ideas  now in chart music.

 

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My 2 cents....an excerpt from an old blog article.

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Typically, ideas for songs don’t arrive in a scheduled manner. Many of mine are discovered completely by accident.

They come while practicing guitar, driving, watching TV, speaking to someone about a totally unrelated subject, listening to music, or while waiting to fall asleep.

The trick is to keep good, organized records of all these ideas. That way, when you do schedule time to write, you actually have a starting point (idea).

From that starting point, you can begin to flush out the actual song.

 

Bottom line...I don't go looking for concept ideas. They tend to find me. Once they do, I do my best to turn them into something relatable.

 

As for the titles themselves, some of mine are deliberately familiar..."Sunday Christian", "The Usual Suspects", "Pain for Gain", "Bottom Feeders", "Tough Love", "Fool Me Once", "Someday", "The Real World".

By doing that, my hope is that the familiar nature of the titles helps draw attention from potential listeners who happen across them in the online media jungle.

Sometimes, I'll take a well known title such as "The Usual Suspects" & apply it to non-typical subject matter.

In the case of "The Usual Suspects", the title describes a list of typical reasons for relationship failure...not a mystery or well-known movie.

 

Hopefully, something I said here helps. Good luck and enjoy the process! ;)

 

Tom 

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Hi K

 

   I dont take too much stock in titles. Though I tend to stay away from too generic or too flashy of a title. I mean, who wants to see a title "I Love You" and think, boy, this is going to be a great lyric.lol

 

      Mine tend to be shorter and to the point with enough vagueness as to not over state what the song is about. One short song on my soundcloud site is called "unused valentine" . Gives you a clue of what its about without giving away the story. Besides, the title is the least important thing about a lyric. It's the subject matter and how its presented in a "creative" manner that counts.

 

just my two cents worth

R-N-R Jim

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Good question, Kinh. ;) My own perspective is that a good title -  especially when it forms the chorus hook, or part of it - is extremely important. I've often read that it's also important for potential music publishers/supervisors when they're browsing a catalogue of perhaps hundreds - or maybe thousands - of songs. They'll apparently be more likely to stop and listen to a song with the kind of title that piqued their interest or curiousity, in particular if they're looking for a song to license for film or tv.

 

I try to keep my titles relatively short, but pointing to the mood and/or the theme, so that they support the content (again, especially if they're part of the chorus or whichever section they're in, depending upon the song's format etc.)

 

Of course, a title doesn't even need to appear in the lyric itself, although it likely reflects the mood or tone of the lyrical story. But I feel it needs to be interesting enough to attract attention to the song. For instance, twice a year I - and a couple of the Musers here - take part in a fairly intense songwriting challenge (one lasts for 1 month, the other for 3 months), and when browsing the hundreds of songs posted each day in order to comment on several of them, I invariably select the ones that have - for me - interesting or intriguing titles. Other people of course might have different criteria.

 

To answer your specific question as to 'how': Most of my titles derive from the 'hook' that generally presents itself spontaneously as part of a chorus. I've also used book or film titles that I found intriguing, or sometimes even a news headline that was dramatic or hilarious (usually unintentionally). Or I've overhead something in a conversation. Often when I'm reading a book, a phrase in a sentence will leap off the page, and end up being turned into a title/hook for a lyric. There are also web sites with 'title generators' that are heaps of fun to play with, and can come up with some wonderfully surreal and evocative possibilities. ;) Or web sites like https://en.wordpress.com/tag/lost-love/ or http://postsecret.com. In fact, plenty of good song ideas there as well. Basically, hook/title ideas or inspiration can be found everywhere and at every moment.

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Titles are everywhere. I was reading an article about pensions earlier and the phrase "seven lean years" popped out at me. I immediately played with the possible ways in which I could take advantage of it and then moved on to read the rest of the article.

 

For me, it's about paying attention to the commonplace as well as to the unique and unexpected.

 

I also develop them out of necessity.  I have two verses written and half an idea about a chorus to pull it all together.  If I can come up with a good hook that can be supported by the verses I've written, I can build the rest of the chorus, the bridge and a final verse around it. The hook = the title. It's usually a little more difficult doing it that way and I'm not always rewarded with a great hook. 

 

There are plenty of ways to skin that cat (hey, that can work). 

 

 

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On 13/03/2018 at 19:53, jonie said:

Titles are everywhere. I was reading an article about pensions earlier and the phrase "seven lean years" popped out at me. I immediately played with the possible ways in which I could take advantage of it and then moved on to read the rest of the article.

 

For me, it's about paying attention to the commonplace as well as to the unique and unexpected.

 

I also develop them out of necessity.  I have two verses written and half an idea about a chorus to pull it all together.  If I can come up with a good hook that can be supported by the verses I've written, I can build the rest of the chorus, the bridge and a final verse around it. The hook = the title. It's usually a little more difficult doing it that way and I'm not always rewarded with a great hook. 

 

There are plenty of ways to skin that cat (hey, that can work). 

 

 

 I agree with Jonie.  Titles ARE everywhere.  Since you write mainly pop, I’d like to share that I once did a songwriting course that recommended going specifically to Huffington Post and making a list of all the front page article headlines, then putting your twist on each.  Editing as you feel, until it’s a title you like.  Then keep adding to the list every so often so that you have a pool to draw from when you sit down to write and need inspiration.  I’ve been doing this, sometimes it helps, sometimes I’m im just sick of my list...lol!  Hope this was helpful in some way!  

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Well, I run UTG - a unique title generating service, and we only charge $1,500.00/hour (U.S.) for the service.  You must pay for a minimum of one hour in advance, results are not guaranteed, and there are no refunds.  If you're interested, let me know!.  ;) 

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15 hours ago, HoboSage said:

Well, I run UTG - a unique title generating service, and we only charge $1,500.00/hour (U.S.) for the service.  You must pay for a minimum of one hour in advance, results are not guaranteed, and there are no refunds.  If you're interested, let me know!.  ;) 

Oooh! Ooooh! Where do I send my money? I can't wait... How many titles do I get for my $1500? Oh, I don't care, just take the money and give me whatever you come up with. Oh joy! What a bargain... :)

=Bob=

 

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On 26/06/2018 at 13:39, HoboSage said:

Well, I run UTG - a unique title generating service, and we only charge $1,500.00/hour (U.S.) for the service.  You must pay for a minimum of one hour in advance, results are not guaranteed, and there are no refunds.  If you're interested, let me know!.  ;)  

Dang it David........you took my idea for income way into retirement and a life of leisure by thinking of it first!  😛

My thought for titles is that they are very important, because they are what generally piques our interest in a song in the first place.  I tend to find them everywhere, road signs, road kill, restaurant menus, or just a bad dream from bad food.  I keep a note book of nothing but potential titles and try to write down every one I think of every day.  often when working on an idea, I will find a title that I wrote down that will fit in nicely. 

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I'm like tunesmith in that I notice what I think is clever language as a hook then write to the hook, or I will come up with some idea based on what I might come across. The idea is that it must spark something in me that motivates me to try and take it somewhere. Jonie mentioned something similar. They's sparks . I'm also with DonnaMarilyn in that's important

 

Just got back from a sonwriter retreat and what struck me was the diversity in approach to writing a song. Proves the concept that there are at least a dozen ways to do something and no more than three of those don't work 

I think what's common is a creative spark that captures your attention and inspires you to write 

 

As to the title, it could be the hook. In any event it will come to you when it is done

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