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    Beatles, Brill Building, Paul Simon, Irish pub singalongs and my dad singing Sinatra in the shower, to name but a few

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  1. jonie

    No Present Like the Time

    Hi Patty, I won't belabor points already made by others except to say that I thought the metering was fine and the named places didn't bother me. First let me say that I fully see why your lyric was voted first place. It would have pulled at a lot of heartstrings and was well written. For me though, it came off as another "my Dad is great" lyric and its sentimentality was not entirely to my taste. I don't normally vote based on subject matter but, all other things being equal, I do go there. I voted it in the middle of the pack, for this reason. I thought it important to let you know why it didn't appeal to me (as I'd mentioned it in the Lyric Contest thread) so you didn't think there was something inherently wrong with it. There isn't, except where some improvements could be made, which you have already received great suggestions on how to do.
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    Glad you like it. Two very strong characters who constantly have me wondering who I should be rooting for. When I said chord changes I was referring to verses that don't mirror each other all. As in a verse and a bridge a lyricist claims are V1 and V2. There is no way to sing them to the same melody, where natural stresses can't possibly be adhered to and attempting to do so, results in unattractive vocal acrobatics. As they are all labeled as verses, one assumes in reading them that they will follow the same melody. Does it mean they will make a poor song? Not necessarily. I disregard my tendency to score lower for actual musicians such as fabkebab or Ironknee as I know they are more than capable of writing wonderful lyrics to their great songs, lyrics that don't follow a cookie cutter pattern, but even theirs will have an underlying rhythm and noticeable musicality. But as I said, this is a lyric contest and most lyrics are submitted by non musicians who don't have the luxury of throwing together something that appears unsingable, unique as it may be. It needs to convey a rhythm all on its own or else there remains little more than subject matter to judge.
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    Yes, for me, flow and meter verse to verse and throughout are key. If they're missing, I will generally score lower. It can work in a song if the musician has enough chord changes to go around but this is not a song contest.
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    Personally, I think they should just run this contest for the fun of it and forget the cash prizes. Less contention over the results and all. Oh wait! They already do!
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    Congratulations to Patty and Robert K. I'll have to go read Patty's a few more times. I didn't score it at the top and must surely have missed something. I had Robert's Catch Me on the Rebound and Kuya's How Bad You Got the Blues tied for my 1st place. I found them both unique in subject matter and could hear them both easily fitting with music. Well crafted and clever. Good job, guys. I had a bunch in my second slot as I felt all were worthy: Feeling Like Medusa, Comic Girl Life, Wanda Saves, Sun is King, Evening Echo, Miss Green and I Don't Want to Dream Tonight. 25 lyrics. Wow. Thank you to the voters who liked All I Want to Do (Woo Hoo). It was fun to write and I still chuckle when I think of poor Eddie and Danny running out of that bank wondering what the hell happened to their getaway car.
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    This Highway

    I got to the end and was glad to know I'd guessed right about what the lyric was about. First time I've ever read a lyric that demonized highways and the interstates, but they are certainly deserving. They've helped to destroy so much of middle America. I love the flow and rhythm of it and all without an end rhyme until 4th gear. Kudos for that. Not easy to do. And two killer lines at the end of 3rd and 4th gear (naming the different musical and lyrical movements as gears is quite clever, to boot) I can see nothing to nitpick. I liked it and think it will make a great song.
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    Incel Rising

    But these aren't adolescents. They're adults, some of whom are willing to engage in violent behavior. And this is not the first incident of its kind committed in the name of the ideology. The Incel movement is not exactly obscure, although the more violent individuals are still believed to be on a remote fringe of the movement. Tide pod eaters and even cyber bullies are not labelled as terrorists, though the latter do inflict a form of emotional terror on their victims. But I think it is safe to label Alek Minassian a terrorist as well as Elliot Rodger. How many more will be willing to follow in their footsteps in the months and years to come? I suspect it would take a huge shift in society's sexual norms to satisfy these men. Not sure a treatment programme would cut it, unless they were guaranteed the woman of their dreams at the end of it.
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    Incel Rising

    Incel. A frightening ideology, from anyone's perspective. I think Minassian is mentally ill, which likely had more to do with his killing and injuring randomly in Toronto than this ideology, but to know that such an opinion is out there in social media, militarizing itself (fringe though it might be), does somewhat concern me. https://www.vox.com/world/2018/4/25/17277496/incel-toronto-attack-alek-minassian "Some self-identified incels, as they call themselves, have developed an elaborate sociopolitical explanation for their sexual failures, one that centers on the idea that women are shallow, vicious, and only attracted to hyper-muscular men. They see this as a profound injustice against men like them, who suffer an inherent genetic disadvantage through no fault of their own. A small radical fringe believes that violence, especially against women, is an appropriate response — that an “Incel Rebellion” or “Beta [Male] Uprising” will eventually overturn the sexual status quo."
  9. Hi Hobosage, Yes, it's a true story about a boy who lived in the next row of apartments, in the same housing project I did during my teen years. The part about his uncle abusing him? I'm not sure, though the man was dodgy and boys who abuse animals are surely damaged themselves, often as a result of being abused in some way. I remember sitting on my front stoop with a friend when one of these burned kittens stumbled up to us. The sound the poor creature made - I can't even describe it. And the smell. It died in a shoe box about an hour later. 50 years and I still can't get that kitten out of my mind. The boy either. The younger me had only sympathy for the kitten. The older me understands that human nature is complicated.
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    Welcome to the Muse. I'm reading prose here, rather than a lyric, or at least not one that I can discern and there is no formal or even loose lyrical structure and there's an absence of rhyme, though I read through a couple of time to see if I could find some internal rhyming. There is a hint of some and I've colour-coded those I can hear, but I'm mostly hearing vowel matches and I feel as if some of it might be accidental. I have no clue what underground Australian music is. Is it like rap (which usually has quite a bit of rhyming)? If you can provide a link to the instrumental you are using, I could have a listen and see how your words might fit in. I don't understand the content but enjoy the metaphor. Sorry I can't be of more help.
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    Cosby busted

    Survivors. I like that.
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    In These Golden Days

    Thanks, OWLR. Like I said, this one rolled out pretty quickly. It's yet to take the shape and content it will end up with. It's not really about old age, though "golden" surely lends itself to that interpretation. ( I will probably change that) I was thinking more about depression and dissatisfaction with life as an adult living in western society. The need for more stuff we think will eventually lead to happiness because advertisers tell us it will. How can we feel such a lack of satisfaction when we live in such a golden time as the 21st century? Maybe the answer lies elsewhere. In ourselves and in each other, maybe? And what in the world is better than a kiss? That's the rough thinking. Now I need the lyric to say it. The gottas are intentional. I've been trying to make that repetition thing work from the first time I listened to Leonard Cohen's "Everybody Knows". I figure I'm bound to crack it one day, if I keep at it. Thanks for your insights and impressions.
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    Collaboration Contest Results - April 2018

    Wow, what a showing! Triffid and Songwolfe - big congratulations on a stunningly beautiful song that made the task of moving my heart into my throat look so easy. Indecision - such a great song, Oswlek and Patty - Glad to hear I wasn't the only one who considered it a stand out. And to all of us bronze gods and goddesses, I think we can be pleased that our songs were enjoyed enough by voters to place in some of the top spots. I really, really enjoyed this collab contest, more than any other I've been involved in. I am so grateful to Scotto for all of his hard work putting it all together and letting me join in on the chorus (a first) I will be back later tomorrow with my thoughts when voting (which I stupidly wrote in a work notebook that is now back at work) and other general stuff about my experience working with Scotto. I just couldn't wait to congratulate the winners.
  14. That Project Boy The thing he did in those days That project boy When not drinking or smoking Fucking or farting for laughs He set kittens on fire Kittens, yes the most innocent of creatures Maybe on the same days he spent learning morality from his uncle The one with silver dollars in stiff trouser pockets Heavyweights resting against a semi-retired dick Did the boy reach in and pull out fast or linger for more? And later, did he give up his soft mouth for promises That would never be kept? I think it likely Death came quickly for those kittens Sure, they suffered, but were spared A lifetime of lighter fluid and matches
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    Light It Up

    I'm honored. As far as I know, no one has ever ghosted one of my lyrics. It's a perfect example of the process as I would never have imagined it going where you took it. It's a good lyric - I really like what it has to say. The metal edge you've going on in the chorus is smoothly transitioned from the more acoustic kind of country grunge style verses. I have to wonder what it would sound like with a full backing of bass, drums and electric guitar. Seems well deserving of such a treatment.