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    Lovettsville, VA, USA

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    dave carter, stan rogers, patty griffin, guy clark, leonard cohen, joni mitchell, david massengill

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  1. Special congratulations go to our February 1+1 top scorers: The S, Sweeter Side of Somber Paul Canuck, The Trouble Is.... And a tie for third place between Murphster, Only Love Will Rescue Me And Ironknee, Starry Eyed Every song entered made it into someone’s top four. Bare-bones announcement here, can’t do colors and font sizes on my phone. This would be a month to do it up big, though, with such a terrific crop of sparsely arranged beauties. And several voters commented that they’d like to have voted for more than four entries. If that’s you, it would be great to mention the ones here in this thread, that you liked, and why. The more entries we have, the more top scorers I can announce. The top third plus one. Many thanks to our non-contestant judges: Mose, DonnaMarilyn, tunesmith, Art1108, and Short Order Kook, for taking the time and trouble of listening, picking your top four, and sending those picks to me. Good on you, guys!
  2. One more day to vote! I’m taking votes til midnight tomorrow, and I’ve heard from all but 2 of our entrants. I’ll be on the road tomorrow and for the rest of the week but will post the winners from my cell phone. What could possibly go wrong????
  3. The scoring phase of the February 1+1 competition has commenced. Between now and midnight (Pacific Time) March 6, each contestant needs to send me your four favorite entries: the songs that impressed or inspired or moved you the most in this competition. The order of your four picks doesn’t matter. For scoring purposes, they’ll all be weighted the same. On March 7, I’ll post the names of the four songs that received the highest number of votes. As always, noncontestant voters will be very welcome. Not that it's happened, but don't vote for your own entry even though it's probably one of your four favorites. Good luck, everyone!
  4. Joan

    Collaboration Contest

    Maybe instead of cutting the numbers, you could have as many teams as there are musicians. Maybe each team could have two or three lyricists, depending on how the eventual numbers shake out.
  5. Take your time, I’m taking entries through next Tuesday night.
  6. Joan

    January 2018 Song Contest

    Tom, we have a 1+1 under way now. If any or all of you could work up entries, that would be wonderful.
  7. I meant to let the messages die down from the January comp before beginning the February comp, but that comp is enjoying a lively post contest conversation. And that is always a good thing. But if I wait much longer we will be running out of February days, so I hereby decree that the February 1+1 song comp is now open for entries. Good luck, everybody!
  8. Please scroll down to read the winners of the February one plus one competition! The scoring phase of the February 1+1 competition has commenced. Between now and midnight (Pacific Time) March 6, each contestant needs to send me your four favorite entries: the songs that impressed or inspired or moved you the most in this competition. The order of your four picks doesn’t matter. For scoring purposes, they’ll all be weighted the same. On March 7, I’ll post the names of the four songs that received the highest number of votes. As always, noncontestant voters will be very welcome. Not that it's been an issue, but don't vote for your own entry. Good luck, everyone! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Welcome to the February Song Contest – a 1+1 Format competition. For long-time Musers, please make note of recent changes noted below in the contest rules. For any newcomers, 1+1 means the entry is limited to one instrument and one voice. No doubling, harmonies, extra instruments, etc. Think open mic and you'll get the picture. I will be hosting this month so PM me with any questions please. And please note that Musers are not required to post their entries in the Songs Feedback section of MuseSongwriters for the 1+1 comp. The timeline is as follows: • Entries will be accepted now through Midnight Pacific Time Tuesday, February 27. • Voting (scorecards) will take place Tuesday, February 28 through Midnight (MST) Tuesday, March 6. • Don’t start voting until I officially post the scoring instructions on February 28. I'll post the results the day after the March 6 voting deadline.
 If you plan to enter, please review the revised rules, pinned in this forum. When posting your song, please include: •song title •writer credits (If it’s a collab with another Muser please make that clear by including their M/M id) •audio link The longstanding rules for the 1+1 all apply, with the following revisions: 3. Once the competition opens for scoring, send the Moderator running the competition your choices for the top entries. The Moderator will announce how many songs you are to pick as your favorites; this number will depend on how many entries there are. The number will approximate one-third the number of total entries. All your picks will receive equal weight in the competition. 4. The Moderator running the competition will post only the top-third high-scoring entries, in order of the number of total votes received. If your entry is not among those listed and you'd like to know how your song ranked, pm the moderator running the competition and that information will be provided to you. Please include the lyrics on your post. You may include a small introduction about your song but any other text may be removed by the moderator. Videos are permitted. (Voters will be encouraged to refrain from watching any video until after they've scored the song.) All Musers are welcome to submit songs as contestants or score the songs as non-contestants. Any questions or problems should be sent to me via private message (PM).
  9. Joan

    Tapped Out

    MABBO, what you say about output makes a lot of sense. You learn to ride a bicycle better and can go for longer and longer rides by going on longer and longer rides. There are definitely things in songwriting you do better by doing it more, but there are things you get better at by learning how to dig deeper, how to translate and illuminate personal thoughts, feelings and experiences into something that reminds strangers of their own. My Nashville friends were good when they first pulled up in Nashville, and they definitely got better at putting their lines into structured formats. And their melodies and arrangements sound a lot more professional these days. Discipline is there that maybe wasn't there before. But for most of them, when they come back to do shows I still hear the same clunker phrases in their newer stuff I remember from their old stuff, the same excesses of telling where it seemed to me they should've been showing. There are other things besides increased output that teach you to write lyrics that are more memorable and that evoke cathartic feelings in the listener. If the songs you're doing now don't have that effect, writing more and more of those songs won't make it happen. I'd almost liken it to ramping up your guitar technique. A huge part of getting better is playing more often and for longer sittings. But another part of playing better is ditching and replacing some of the techniques that have been holding back your velocity, rhythm, volume, tone production and general musicality. Some people improve all those things by osmosis, but others need some kind of intervention from outside help, whether from a teacher or close observation of more advanced players or hanging around better players and picking up their tricks. People who write mediocre stuff can raise their quality all the way to the top, I've seen it happen. It seems to me it's more likely to happen once a person learns to recognize a qualitative difference between their own work and the work of the writers they most admire. The oyster needs that irritant to make that pearl. Too many people are hell-bent on getting discovered when they should be hell-bent on improving. You can't get better if you think you're already great. If that dissatisfaction and agitation aren't there, your next song won't be better than your last one. Co-writing inspires and influences you when your co-writer is strong where you're weak. It's vital to hear and make friends with writers whose work just blows you away and makes you feel like you have a lot of catching up to do. If you have a chance to co-write with one, as you were saying, to know how to keep your ego out of the way. I'd think that's a vital skill to develop, knowing when to give way to another's different idea and when to stand your ground. MABBO, do you have some co-writes you think turned out poorer because of compromises you made sort of unwillingly, because the co-write couldn't proceed until one of you gave in to the other's preference? I'm willing to believe that for every time that happened there were maybe ten or 20 times where it was the opposite. But aren't there some song products you just know would've been better if your preference had held sway?
  10. Joan

    Customary curtesy

    There wasn't much post-scoring conversation after the 1+1 we ran in November. Could have been because it was a light month for entries, but I might've caused it to an extent; I specifically encouraged people to write only about what they liked (basically, what were your favorites and why) instead of offering free-for-all criticism the way these things normally go. Next time we have a 1+1, which I mean to do the month after the next Open Comp, I could open the discussion up to whatever comments anybody feels like making. I think if people feel pissed-off about not placing higher, if they're in any way required or expected to comment, those comments might not be encouraging and helpful. Maybe it should be considered okay not to comment, since sometimes a person's thoughts about the results will be sour, dark and rancid.
  11. Joan

    November Lyrics Contest

    Congratulations Peko, LyriCAL and Kuya! Top-flight lyrics all. Another one I liked very much was When Men Get Together. Crowded fields are exciting! It's wonderful to see comps doing well on the Muse since we cut the cord from Jodi.
  12. Hi, this contest could use a few more entries! We've got four so far and I can run with just those, but at least three or four more would be wonderful. We'll be open for entries through November 27, so I hope a few of you are working something up. Thanks!
  13. The 1+1 is back, with a few change-ups in the scoring rules. The changes in scoring are intended to encourage Musers who have held off on entering this competition. This is also the intent for the new guidelines for post-mortem discussions of the results. The changes are not written in stone. I'll give them a couple of cycles to take off or not, and see how people take to them. This is intended to be a "kinder, gentler comp" where there are basically winners but no losers. Results for entries that don't post in the top third won't be published. However, anyone who wants to know how their song ranked can still get that information privately. For any newcomers, 1+1 means the entry is limited to one instrument and one voice. No doubling, harmonies, extra instruments, etc. Think open mic and you'll get the picture. I will be hosting this month so PM me with any questions please. The timeline is as follows: • Entries will be accepted now through Midnight Mountain Standard Time (MST) Monday, November 27. • Voting (scorecards) will take place Tuesday, November 28th through Midnight (MST) Sunday, December 3. • Don’t start voting until I officially post the scoring instructions on March 28. I'll post the results shortly after the December 2 voting deadline.
 If you plan to enter, please review the revised rules, pinned in this forum. When posting your song, please include: •song title •writer credits (If it’s a collab with another Muser please make that clear by including their M/M id) •audio link The longstanding rules for the 1+1 all apply, with the following revisions: 3. Once the competition opens for scoring, send the Moderator running the competition your choices for the top entries. The Moderator will announce how many songs you are to pick as your favorites; this number will depend on how many entries there are. The number will approximate one-third the number of total entries. All your picks will receive equal weight in the competition. 4. The Moderator running the competition will post only the top-third high-scoring entries, in order of the number of total votes received. If your entry is not among those listed and you'd like to know how your song ranked, pm the Moderator running the competition and that information will be provided to you. 5. Post-results discussion: This competition is envisioned as basically a feedback-free zone. Post-results discussions can and do take on lives of their own, and that is not likely to change. However, this discussion will be encouraged to focus on what you liked best about the songs that received your votes. You can also write about what you liked best about the songs that came closest to receiving your votes. Entrants who want constructive criticism for their entries are encouraged to post them for critique in the Songs Feedback section of MuseSongwriters.
  14. Congratulations to the three winners of the November 1+1 Competition: I Ain’t No Angel, Ironknee (8 votes) Before Love Comes, Murphster (8 votes) Forever Loved, Triffid (7 votes) Every song entered this month made some voter’s list of favorites. If you’d like to know where your entry placed among the eight, PM me and I’ll tell you. The next highest-placing song after Triffid’s received 4 votes, the next after that received 3, and the final three entries had 2 votes each. A big Thank You to this month’s non-contestant judges: Peko, Andy LeF, BarneyBoy, and Greybeard. Well done, all. I'd like to encourage everyone who posts not he thread now to focus on what you liked best about the entries that got your votes, as well as what you liked best about entries you'd have voted for if you could've. If the discussion takes a different turn instead and people want to give critiques instead, I won't try to drag it back to what I had in mind. ********************************* Between now and midnight (Pacific Time) December 2, each contestant needs to send me your three favorite picks: the songs that impressed or inspired or moved you the most in this competition. The order of your three picks doesn’t matter. For scoring purposes, they’ll all be weighted the same. On December 3, I’ll post the names of the three songs that received the highest number of votes. As always, noncontestant voters would be more than welcome. Good luck, everyone! *********************************************** Welcome to the November Song Contest – a 1+1 Format contest. For long-time Musers, please make note of recent changes noted below in the contest rules. For any newcomers, 1+1 means the entry is limited to one instrument and one voice. No doubling, harmonies, extra instruments, etc. Think open mic and you'll get the picture. I will be hosting this month so PM me with any questions please. And please note that Musers are not required to post their entries in the Songs Feedback section of MuseSongwriters for the 1+1 comp. The timeline is as follows: • Entries will be accepted now through Midnight Pacific Time Monday, November 27. • Voting (scorecards) will take place Tuesday, November 28th through Midnight (MST) Sunday, December 3. • Don’t start voting until I officially post the scoring instructions on March 28. I'll post the results shortly after the December 3 voting deadline.
 If you plan to enter, please review the revised rules, pinned in this forum. When posting your song, please include: •song title •writer credits (If it’s a collab with another Muser please make that clear by including their M/M id) •audio link The longstanding rules for the 1+1 all apply, with the following revisions: 3. Once the competition opens for scoring, send the Moderator running the competition your choices for the top entries. The Moderator will announce how many songs you are to pick as your favorites; this number will depend on how many entries there are. The number will approximate one-third the number of total entries. All your picks will receive equal weight in the competition. 4. The Moderator running the competition will post only the top-third high-scoring entries, in order of the number of total votes received. If your entry is not among those listed and you'd like to know how your song ranked, pm the Moderator running the competition and that information will be provided to you. 5. Post-results discussion: This competition is envisioned as basically a feedback-free zone. Post-results discussions can and do take on lives of their own, and that is not likely to change. However, this discussion will be encouraged to focus on what you liked best about the songs that received your votes. You can also write about what you liked best about the songs that came closest to receiving your votes. Entrants who want constructive criticism for their entries are encouraged to post them for critique in the Songs Feedback section of MuseSongwriters. Please include the lyrics on your post. You may include a small introduction about your song but any other text may be removed by the moderator. Videos are permitted. (Voters will be encouraged to refrain from watching any video until after they've scored the song.) All Musers are welcome to submit songs as contestants or score the songs as non-contestants. Any questions or problems should be sent to me via private message (PM).
  15. I’m hosting a 1+1 song competition this month, and will begin accepting entries Monday Nov 13. We’re a little late getting started, but this comp should wrap before the Season of Joy has us by the throat. The rules for entry (one vocal, one instrument) will be the same as always, but the scoring system will be streamlined and the time frame for scoring the entries will be shorter than usual. Please stay tuned.
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