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About lillyorthefury

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    I was an avid bassoon player...classical music (most eras), dark electronica one can't really dance to, tennis, volleyball, curling, and my doggie. :)

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  • Lyricist, Composer or Both?
    I'd like to THINK both ;)
  • Musical Influences?
    Damien Rice, The Hidden Cameras, Jeff Buckley, Rufus Wainwright, John Mayer, Joel Kroeker, Doves, Broken Social Scene (& their lengthy extended family), Muse, Art of Fighting, Bj?rk, M?m, Sigur R?s, early Coldplay
  1. The motivation thread

    Stew, what do you mean by inappropriate? I'm the KING of inappropriate, so I couldn't just let that comment slide. My latest update isn't what I would recommend for everyone. I feel it's better for me to wait for Muse CD, Volume 2, whenever it should happen. I would rather write music for a long time in good health rather than force myself to get a cut out by Halloween, and go up in a flame of self-doubt, heroin and anonymous sex.
  2. The motivation thread

    Great thread, David. My brother's band is very gradually breaking up. The good news about this is that I suddenly have a core personnel of guitar, bass, and drums that I can probably use. I have all the lyrics and melody I'm going to use. One neurotic hidden strength of mine is that I over-rehearse everything mentally. The bad news is that I've only ever had a passing relationship of pleasantries with them. I have no idea how musically compatible we are, and I don't even speak "rock" yet. You know that thing that you use to cover an entire fret to modulate upwards on a guitar? Apparently, it's known as a "capo" (KAY-poe). I called it a "pinchy thing". We'll work it out though.

    Can I make up liner notes?
  4. Point of View

    (Edit: Oops. I think I got off-topic. This is a post about narrative, not so much about pronouns. Sorry.) Hmmm...this is a pretty late post, but at least the topic's still here. This is one of the rules of songwriting that I'm interested in challenging, with all due respect. What do we think of songwriters like, oh, Alanis Morissette, for whom the rotating narrative is very much central to the song? Do people find her songs very confusing? I just find them a puzzle. I hate actual jigsaw puzzles, but I love solving them in musical form. example 1) "HANDS CLEAN" It's been said about this song that one character is the producer/father figure with whom Alanis's character has an inter-generational affair, and these two share the narrative. If it weren't for your maturity none of this would have happened If you weren't so wise beyond your years I would've been able to control myself If it weren't for my attention you wouldn't have been successful and If it weren't for me you would never have amounted to very much Ooh this could be messy But you don't seem to mind Ooh don't go telling everybody And overlook this supposed crime We'll fast forward to a few years later And no one knows except the both of us And I have honored your request for silence And you've washed your hands clean of this You're essentially an employee and I like you having to depend on me You're kind of my prot?g?and one day you'll say you learned all you know from me I know you depend on me like a young thing would to a guardian I know you sexualize me like a young thing would and I think I like it Ooh this could get messy But you don't seem to mind Ooh don't go telling everybody And overlook this supposed crime We'll fast forward to a few years later And no one knows except the both of us And I have honored your request for silence And you've washed your hands clean of this what part of our history's reinvented and under rug swept? what part of your memory is selective and tends to forget? what with this distance it seems so obvious? Just make sure you don't tell on me especially to members of your family We best keep this to ourselves and not tell any members of our inner posse I wish I could tell the world cuz you're such a pretty thing when you're done up properly I might want to marry you one day if you watch that weight and keep your firm body Ooh this could be messy and Ooh I don't seem to mind Ooh don't go telling everybody And overlook this supposed crime example 2) "THE COUCH" A song about a family in therapy; the narrative would appear to get passed to so many family members, I don't know who's who. But does that mean it's not effective? She can appear to get away with this sort of thing. Opinions on why that is? you hadn't seen your father in such a long time he died in the arms of his lover, how dare he your mother never left the house she never married anyone else you took it upon yourself to console her you reminded her so much of your father so you were banished and you wonder why you're so hypersensitive and why you can't trust anyone but us but then how can i begin to forgive her so many years under bridges with dirty water she was foolish and selfish and cowardly if you ask me i don't know where to begin in all of my 50 odd years i have been silently suffering and adapting perpetuating and enduring who are you younger generation to tell me that i have unresolved problems? not many examples of fruits of this type of excruciating labour how can you just throw words around like "grieve" and "heal" and "mourn"? i feel fine, we may not have been born as awake as you were it was much harder in those days we had paper routes uphill both ways we went from school to a job to a wife to instant parenthood i walked into his office i felt so self-conscious on the couch he was sitting down across from me he was writing down his hypothesis, i don't know i've got a loving supportive wife who doesn't know how involved she should get you say his interjecting was him just calling me on my sh*t? just the other day my sweet daughter i was driving past 203 i walked up the stars in my minds eye i remember how they would creak loudly she was only responsive with a drink he was only responsive by photo i was only trying to be the best big brother i could i've walked sometimes confused sometimes ready to crack open wide sometimes indignant, sometimes raw can you imagine i pay him 75 dollars an hour! sometimes it feels like highway robbery and sometimes it's peanuts i wish it could last a couple more hours so here we both are battling similar demons (not coincidentally) you see in getting beyond knowing it solely intellectually you're not relinquishing your majestry you are wise, you are warm you are courageous, you are big and i love you more now than i ever have in my whole life
  5. Examples of Quality?

    Not only do I second Grizwald's motion asking for good examples, but I think there are certain times, IMO, when a really good demo quality actually does more service to a recording than a studio ever could. There can be a astronomical differences in demo recording quality that can lend itself to a more intimate performance, when in the right hands. I've been looking for concrete examples all morning. Every Google hit on Kyle Riabko gets you to the "Win a Date With Tad Hamilton" soundtrack, and that's not the track I'm looking for. Which is too bad. So if you're on any virus-addled version of Kazaa, maybe you can find Kyle's "What Did I Get Myself Into?" (it's on his new self-titled EP), imagine the intricate guitar part done any other way, and tell me it would be better. When I think of Coldplay, which is really the more overproduced album? It's not Parachutes. And it's certainly not their earlier, more charming singles and EPs. God, I hope their future will be about more than just songs like "Moses" and "Nappies". Jesus Christ. (Well, that editorial is now complete.) My second favourite album purchased in 2003 was The Hidden Cameras' "Ecce Homo", recorded entirely in 4-track. And oh NO!!!! They just took down my favourite link from that page this week. Even still, there are others here. *Hidden Cameras link* The other albums are not 4-track though. Damien Rice mp3: "Be My Husband" Okay, this is a live performance. SORRY. But the only percussion instruments you hear are clapping and the drumming of an acoustic guitar body. I haven't gotten into John Mayer's earlier work, but I'm there must be some fine demo examples there.
  6. About Rick D:

    Okay, I'm sorry to be the dense, isolated Canadian on the board, 105 posts and well over a month later, but is this the Rick D with the top 40 countdown? I just heard his name on the radio for the first time this morning. Pray that I might someday have a clue.
  7. SURVEY: The Muse's Muse CD Project

    Woohoo! Count me among the "done" list. If a question was unclear to me, I just used the comment line where possible to clarify how I was answering it. Thank you, moderators, for all your hard work on this. This is very encouraging. --Sean.
  8. A Muse CD

    Re: "you can't make everyone happy". I don't say this to be a downer. I promise. Yeah, this sentiment is probably true enough. I think everyone who is a lyricist or musician, or anyone who will be doing any submitting for judging in whatever form, before you get too involved in this: Really, REALLY CONCENTRATE for a couple of minutes on what it would feel like NOT to have your submission picked. Imagine all the hard work. Imagine yourself never wanting to write or sing or play again after not being selected. Whatever thoughts come to you, go with them for a bit. (I should do this myself.) Briefly prepare yourself for the worst so you can enjoy the best. It might actually help to soften the blow, not if, but when it does happen to some of us. We can help each other through these feelings as well. It's a fact of life that we can't win at everything, and it seems the interest in this project is very great. I would hate to see anyone pack away their writing forever because of disappointment stemming from this project.
  9. A Muse CD

    I think Russell brought this up before in a similar context, Mark. I'm no tech-wizard, but maybe we could have people who are listed as separate producers, even if they're not quite as interested in any other component of bringing together this CD. Some songwriters will already be good producers (or HAVE good producers), others will have tons of raw talent that many of the judges will agree upon, but they just might not have the production value. Maybe this is the time to set up a separate shout-out for producers/mixers, who will just be listed in the credits on an as-needed basis. We can learn from them what genres of music they feel most comfortable producing and/or they can latch onto the projects they feel most strongly about. They might be credited on 4 tracks, they might be on *gulp* 10. Who knows? They might get bonus points for being geographically accessible to the lyricists and musicians. That could be feasible over the net, couldn't it? It would probably involve a lot of track-by-track swapping though, and by that I mean, "here is the vocal track", "here's guitar 2" in small pieces, if the parties choose to do it that way.

    Oh wow, I've never seen a board where you could add poll options on the fly. LOL. BWahahahaha, I won't rest until this poll has fifty options! @ Denise.

    LOL! Warren, that's the funniest post ever! I could see how "too many lyricists" could get confusing, even egotistical, but that imbalance seems inevitable around here, doesn't it? I am a musician, it's just that for a solid year, I haven't picked anything up, so I'm "currently" a lyricist.

    How about "building interest"? Not yet "strong" for me, but headed that way.

    Yeah, when ARE we saying for a deadline? I've gotta get crackin'. I'm glad we're looking at so many submissions. I'd be interested in submitting and judging mostly. (I voted for submitting.) I don't think of myself as a natural promoter of artists, but if there's anything I can do down that avenue, let me know. It would certainly broaden my horizons.
  14. A Muse CD

    OMG...a brand new forum?!! I'm gonna take this idea a bit more seriously now. This is exciting!
  15. A Muse CD

    I like the idea of everyone tossing in one OR two songs. Perhaps no one should get two to the final cut to fit the most number of people. Something like that. I'd like it even more if we had 3 months or so to get to a studio. Or 6. Whatever works.