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  2. Scotto

    President Trump

    The real issue here is that I think it is kind of an unsolvable problem. You will never stop illegal immigration... sorry... this country is way to big and walls breed a false sense of security. They uncover tunnels all the time even without a wall. Not to mention the Narco submarines they are using to smuggle in drugs. Mix in dealing with humanity and any solution will be complicated and messy but walls? Overly simplistic solution to a very complex issue. Also we are a very successful country and there is more opportunity here than where some of these disparate people come from so they are willing to risk everything to try to come here. I never thought we stopped being great so I definitely didn't buy into making us great 'again' and frankly those trying to get here must think we're pretty great as well to risk so much. At the end of the day I would like to see us doing the best we can to stop illegal immigration but in a humane manner that lives up to the ideals our country was founded upon. There is a certain stripe of republicans currently that are just mean and divisive about anyone that doesn't agree with them. "Liberals" and "the left" blah blah blah. I don't know any one that considers themselves "the left" but if we don't toe the GOP media machine's line we get called that with a nice sweeping generalization and a write off of our opinions. Well it is still my one single little vote (buried in a red district so it won't matter anyway). The left does the same to a certain extent. It is more subtle and clever in some cases so it is probably more effective but at this point with each side having their own propagandist platforms and not even hiding it, politics is just insufferable nonsense most of the time. You have to dig way to hard to find the truth these days. Since this is a Trump thread, I kind of thought Trump was a joke before his political career. Having lived in the NJ area he was mainly known for his failed casinos and as a blow hard reality TV guy. I feel like I am in an alternate universe watching him be a president. I really hope he does something well. So far I don't see it. Even his successes seem to have to be divisive in nature. It's exhausting. Since personal background and bias seems to come up in this thread for some reason, I am a scum sucking swing voter. I ignore the D and the R next to the name and try and pick the best person for the job. I hate political parties and overly rigid ideologies and prefer pragmatism. I don't particularly like the Clinton's very much these days and the democratic party doesn't seem to have any real message or leader. I don't even know where they stand on the issues. Guess it's not an election year but they need new leadership. Republicans at least... you know where they stand on the issues even if they are ham fisted and blunt about it. Also I am an IT manager at a fortune 500 company and I served in the US Navy as a young lad. I have never completed college and got to where I am through hard work and just being good at what I do. I have never taken a step backward (knocks on wood (my head)) despite having worked through 3 different company buyouts. Any issues are of my own making and I've never found that whatever is going on or how bad we think a president is that it actually has a direct affect on me and what I can achieve. I'm a little worried about the tariff's on that front. There are some layoffs around that already here in Missouri according to the local paper. While I don't think it will spread to the industry my company is in yet but at some point it will have some affect given our reliance on auto if it goes on too long. The only thing I can say that I notice day to day is that I am paying more for healthcare since the mid 2000's. Started going up under Bush and got worse from there. Obamacare might of been a good idea but something like that needs buy in to work and it was rammed through without that so it was never going to work. With half measures to remove it/not remove it, currently deductibles are much higher than they have ever been. Luckily we've been healthy but my wife needs surgery and that is going to cost us. I only have one vote so arguing and insulting someone else with one vote certainly isn't helpful. Also we aren't going to change each others mind. Maybe we could start a movement to get better candidates up there for the next election though because that last one sucked...
  3. RoadDog

    June Song Contest

    Tomahawk Chorus: I'm gonna cruise like a Tomahawk, over the sea, with a monkey on my six, followin' me. Oh no! Woo hoo! And that monkey gonna see what I'm a gonna do! Verse 1: Don't 'cha love Mondays, like your hand in a blender? or shoehorned subways ... with their odor of life? But I got a new alarm clock. I'm gonna set it on stun. It's gonna wake me up gently, like a gatling gun! Pre-Chorus: Take your everyday vitamins ... and your go-fast pills. Now focus like a zoom lense, if you've got the will! Verse 2: Wading through email, and emoji death threats, I don't need kevlar. I need a coffee to go. Living under a black cloud, like canaries in a coal mine, I'm gonna lose that monkey, then I'll be fine.
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  5. DinoRider

    President Trump

    @Moso A link to the blog post instead of a copy paste probably could have saved me a lot of grief (not all but a lot). Here's the link to her blog: https://www.michellemartinauthor.com/myblog/9-myths-about-trumps-zero-tolerance-policy She has changed a few things since she first posted Monday (such as explanations to what the links are), and has reformatted, since yesterday when I visited, to make it appear a bit more sleek. What you presented was an article with an anonymous author. What it resembled to me was one of those "forward to a friend if you believe blah blah" emails. Throw in the botched credential. How am I suppose to know the author is a Phd? There was absolutely no way to verify who wrote it, and with the lack of citation, no way to know if anything was truth or if they pulled it out of their ass. So yeah, I'm a fool for not believing everything on the internet. Give me the dunce cap! These people are good people outside of off topic ( sorry guys! Ya'll get a bit rough some times!). I think this pit is where they can go to vent frustration, and try to make sense of shit. For the most part what goes on here stays here and doesn't roll over to the other parts of the board. No hard feelings, that's all I have to say. Peace
  6. Onewholovesrock

    President Trump

    Hey Moso. As for me I thoroughly enjoy your post. I was actually thinking recently. I wish I could write my thoughts down as well as you do. Keep up the good words. I’ll definitely be following. As of name calling. We can all work on that. 🤘
  7. Short Order Kook

    Parchman

    Very good kuya! Sorry, you put me in the mood...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF9M7OefsOE
  8. Ironknee

    President Trump

    This statement says it all bozo........... You have incredible gall........you really are a fool. And a blind one, at that....how ironic!!
  9. Ironknee

    President Trump

    God.....what a bozo. You need to get a life, and stop picking these cyber fights. Never been called a troll?? (you just were, bozo....you just were!) 😎 And what is profoundly stupid is that you insist that your arguments / comments / opinions are better than any one else's. Your whole point is to shame and disgrace anyone with a differing opinion.....I guess because all of us on the other side of your wall are illiterate. Enough, already. And funny how you can punch, kick and scream and be allowed to keep it up, while others get their posts rearranged or simply dropped. You go boy.......you are untouchable....I guess, because you're right....but, you've always been the smartest one in the room, haven't you!
  10. Smile-worthy video that has been making the rounds today
  11. Moso

    President Trump

    yeah...
  12. Barneyboy

    President Trump

    What were the insults Kuya? You sound like you have this air of superiority by policing what is said by others. Let me direct you to the words written on the back of Melania's over coat. If you have an issue with what I post then respond to it by all means. Leave your preaching and condemning posting to the real mods not a pretend one, as yourself.
  13. Moso

    President Trump

    I absolutely can be. Part of my family was wealthy (some through hard work, and some through graft), and part was trailer park poor (some "deserving", some not). Part of my teenage years I was homeless. Point being I've known, basically grown up with, the gamut of hypocritical, bigoted, dishonest, racist... (And healthy personalities, too, thankfully.) Whatever my weaknesses, I can smell a lot of that bullshit a mile off, as I think can a lot of you. I generally try not to call people names as I feel snapshots of behavior do not de facto define a person, that people can change. But some people really push it. Sometimes I go overboard. DinoRider for example I don't think really had it coming. He made a mistake, but it wasn't a big one, and didn't necessarily deserve a hammer. That long piece I had with him was mostly because I figured I had to put my money where my mouth was and finish the job of checking over that PhD's post. I don't necessarily think we have any "bad" people in this forum, just people who are not thinkers and who aggressively believe some really dumb things, and are apparently blind to themselves. (Though there is really something wrong with B-boy.🙁) But I guess we should get back on topic, which is.... the glory that is President Trump. Oh yeah. I wonder why we're arguing.
  14. Jason Kalman

    June Song Contest

    Dreaming Of You Why’d I let you go? Cause I don't want you to know That everything is hard for me I barely have the strength to be I can only hope that now You can figure out somehow I’ll be right here living in the shadows I’ll be right here living in the dark I will spend my waking hours Dreaming of you I will spend my nights alone Dreaming of you I’m not like everyone You deserve a better man I’m afraid of everything I’m afraid of everything but you I can only run and hide I can never go outside You are all I’ve ever known You spread your wings and let me in I am destined for misery Without you with me I’ll never be
  15. Lazz

    President Trump

    Fucking old hippy. Yeah - and Moso's a mofo.
  16. tunesmithth

    Internet Taxation

    And, as if it was complicated enough already... https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/22/17493298/supreme-court-internet-sales-tax-congress-amazon-etsy-ebay Obviously, this is far from a done-deal. It may be years before final guidelines are enacted & actual revenue is collected. Makes for great talking-points though! Tom
  17. Moso

    Is there a North Korean deal

    Very interesting, especially if this means they are priming their population: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44557818
  18. kuya

    This Girls Love Is Not For Sale

    Mr D, Use google and type in 'price rhymes' You'll get rhymes and near rhymes. It's great.
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  20. tunesmithth

    President Trump

    I guess that's one way to interpret the request. Another would be as an end-run around the current 20 day holding stipulation. If I can hazard another guess, perhaps that's why they separated the children to begin with...because doing so would allow them to hold the adults longer & deal with the children separately? Like I said, strictly a guess... perhaps someone with a more extensive knowledge of the regs will chime in here & enlighten us. Tom
  21. DinoRider

    President Trump

    Justice Department asks judge for family detention rule change https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/21/justice-department-asks-judge-for-family-detention-rule-change.html
  22. Onewholovesrock

    President Trump

    The photo is symbolism. You are correct. Trump is a monster. (In the eyes of many Americans). Time magazine used Trumps photo and the girls photo to symbolize that perfectly. I know symbolism probably isn’t something most “rightist” comprehend. But that’s okay. You guys didn’t earn the name “conservatives” by having open minds. HAIL TRUMP! 😀😂😆😂 Cheers!
  23. mick70

    This Girls Love Is Not For Sale

    I wanted to say something mr D but I can’t add any. I liked your lyrics but I think want SB did also really fleshed them out as well
  24. Moso

    President Trump

    That's kind of funny since you just edited your comments. But anyway if you read again, you'll see that I didn't disagree with your core argument. I disagreed with the reason you made up for it. Only recently, when I brought up... oh, what was that guy's name... that crazy ex-basketball player who is buddy buddy with Kim J-U... when I brought up his history of drugs and violence and showed pictures of him dressing like a prostitute, saying I can understand why people don't take him seriously, you attacked me for being anti-LBGT because of the photos. And you stuck to it, never admitted you were off base, despite that it was a blatantly false argument. Please don't lecture me on honesty or integrity. And if you look back to my original post, you'll see that the part you disagreed with has been removed. I've had a chat with mods, and a few sections were snipped/summed. Now perhaps you can explain to me how SB's comment wasn't racist? Explain to me how people not assimilating as you'd like into your own culture, but instead trying to be themselves and their own culture, how wanting them out because of that is not racist. And remember again that that exact argument has been used to commit some of history's greatest racist atrocities.
  25. kuya

    Parchman

    Thanks @Peko Deleting verses is like cleanng out a closet or attic, and i have pack rat tendencies! But maybe one more verse will have to go. As far as the whip is concerned it even had a name. Black Annie, and they used it on inmates until at least the 1970s. This maximum security prison farm is still in existence today and the conditions are horrible. Elvis Prsley's dad served time there in the 1930s.
  26. PaulCanuck

    June Song Contest

    The Truth Comes Stumbling In https://soundcloud.com/paulcanuck/the-truth-comes-stumbling-in The trial was well underway Each side had been pleading its case But the Lie had convinced them And no-one would listen When the Truth came stumbling in The Lie had arrived by Ferrari The Truth - charact'ristic'ly tardy So the Lie had the show Wrapped up with a bow When the Truth wandered into the party Now, the Lie was as sharp as a dagger And he spoke with a confident swagger With his mirrors and smoke The jury was stoked To believe him ahead of that laggard The Truth, to the murmurs of laughter Had the facts stacked up to the rafters Then she took her sweet time Crossing T's, dotting I's But the crowd wanted out of there faster Yeah, the crowd wanted out of there faster When you sit in your chair in the evenin' And you're glued to the news of the nation Well, your judgement should wait 'Cause the Truth will be late Awww, you're just going to have to be patient! Yeah, she's bound to be late So you'll just have to wait For the the Truth to come Stumbling.. Bumbling.. Grumbling.. Until the Truth comes stumbling in!
  27. kuya

    President Trump

    I'm sorry @Moso but we've reached the point where I stop conversing with you. I make plenty of mistakes but when I catch myself I try to at least be honest enough to admit it. I was being rhetorical @Alistair S about locking the thread.
  28. Alistair S

    President Trump

    Maybe we should all take a deep breath. I don't want to lock the thread if I don't have to.
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