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      Have a question about how the board works? Having difficulties with an aspect of the board? Post your questions here! Also, if you have idea about what you would like to see in future, feel free to post them!

    3. General Music Conversation

      This is a place where you can hold general conversations on music and Muse-related topics. Other topics can be discussed in Off Topic Discussions lower down the forum.

  2. Feedback Area

    1. Lyrics Feedback

      A place for members to post their lyrics if they're looking for constructive criticism.

    2. Songs (incl Instrumentals) Feedback

      Do you have music for the song you want critiqued? Purely instrumental creations also welcome! This is the forum to participate in.

    3. Music Video Feedback

      Interested in creating music videos? Here is a place to get feedback on the video itself. If you want feedback on the song, post in Songs Feedback (or both places if you want feedback on the song AND the video).

  3. Contests

    1. Lyric Contests

      Interested in joining a lyric contest to see how your lyrics measure up amongst your peers? This is the place to enter!

    2. Song Contests

      This is a forum where you can find contests involving the entire song - both lyrics and music.

    3. Other Contests

      This is the place where you'll find the contests that don't fit in the other two categories.

  4. Songcrafting and Collaborating

    1. Songcrafting Discussions

      Inside this forum, you'll learn the musical & lyrical crafts to help you develop your songs and lyrics.

    2. Music Theory and Melody

      A place to discuss questions about music theory and how to develop melodies for your songs.

    3. Songs In Development/Collabs

      Do you have a song that you'd like community help with? Got a good idea and nothing more? This is the place to post your idea, or a link to an audio idea. No critique, just ideas to make it better. A community place to throw your 2 cents in.

  5. General Creativity Area

    1. Artists' Cafe

      A place for you to post poems, short prose, lyrics, songs, and/or artwork. We're a creative bunch: if you're proud of it, we'd love to see it!

    2. Creativity Games & Challenges

      A place for discussions about the creative aspects of songwriting. Looking for inspiration? Would you like to pose a creative challenge to the rest of the creative community here? This is the place to do it.

    3. Songwriting Prompts and Exercises

      Let’s help one another kick-start the songwriting process! If you have an idea for a lyrical or musical prompt to inspire new songwriting ideas, or want to start a non-competitive group songwriting exercise, this is the place to share it. Stumped for a lyric topic? Stuck in a musical rut? Stop by here and get those creative juices flowing again.

  6. Performing, Recording and the Industry

    1. Live Performance

      Discussions on how to do your best in front of a live audience.

    2. Recording Tips & Technical Questions

      Information & recommendations about home recording & equipment you've been particularly impressed with. Also a place to post information about recording studios and tips for getting the most out of your studio experience.

    3. Music Video Production

      Want to make videos for your songs? A place ask questions and discuss all aspects of music video production (technology, software, hints, tips, etc.)

    4. Show Us Your Gear!

      Have some great recording gear or musical instruments at your disposal? Want to show them off? This is the place to tell us about them.

    5. DIY Publishing and The Music Business

      A place to discuss the business end of songwriting as a profession. Also a place to talk about PRO's and songwriting associations and any aspect of the business which you want to discuss, be it controversial or just an item of interest

  7. Self-Promotion, Advertisements and Discussions

    1. Self Promotion & Advertisements

      A place to sell yourself. What do you need to do to make it big? What have you done to improve your exposure? New CD? Website? Let us know and discuss here.

    2. Off Topic Discussions

      This is the place to discuss all those things that don't really belong in any other forum.

    3. Muse's Muse Memorabilia

      These are threads that we're reluctant to delete, but that need to be moved into their own special place.

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    • Rooster Joe.  ( with a dog thrown in for Barneyboy)   grew up around the barnyard. seen things you wouldn't know     
      but I never seen nothin like that cock called rooster Joe   
      One day i saw my papa Put something in his feed.             
      Old joe was kind of high strung. That help he didn't need.                  Joe started with the poultry. He didn't spare no hens.               
      chicken, turkey, waterfowl, and then the livestock pens.       
      Joe went after everything; he didn't spare a cow 
      I saw my mama watching this, and all she said was wow    That tail chasing rooster joe
      Got more tail than you'll ever know
      Chased 'em high and chased 'em low
      My tail chasing rooster joe   and then ma looked at papa And Papa kicked his shoe
      if I had some variety Said I could do that too. 
      Then papa turned to mama. You better go and hide
      He's li'ble to go after you It's best to get inside.    Joe went searching wide and far.  Didn't spare a critter. 
      He even got my sisters dog laying with her litter. 
      This cock was busy all day long but it was getting late 
      I said Pa he's going to kill him self, but that was not his fate   That tail chasing rooster joe
      Got more tail than you'll ever know
      Chased 'em high and chased 'em low
      My tail chasing rooster joe   Pa we gotta do something. My papa said not so
      Have a little faith my son. have faith in rooster joe
      A buzzard soon was circling. Joe struggled on his feet
      Old joe spread eagled on the ground. It seemed like he'd been beat   But then i saw joe wink at pa. He had some kind of plan
      See that buzzard overhead? He'll jump her when she lands. 
      When joe was finally finished. I almost felt a shiver
      For a little bantam red Old joe could sure deliver.     Sometimes it seems like yesterday but it was long ago.   BRIDGE
      Never can forget that day. That day and rooster joe   That tail chasing rooster joe   
      got more tail than you'll ever know
      Chased 'em high and chased 'em low
      My Tail chasing rooster joe  
    • Hi Barney,          The main character ( the fisherman) didn't call her names. The fisherman is sticking with his gf. He's not being  Judgemental.  He's got metaphorical lemons and he's made lemonade. Considering the circumstances, I'd say he's a stand up guy with the patience of Job. All that's missing is a dog. I always try my best to fit a dog in there somewhere for you Barney, but it was only a twenty minute write. I wrote it so quick because it's based on a joke i heard back in the '70s. 
    • I think you may have just opened yourself to some feminine blood letting..  Dude, you can't treat a woman like some disease infested tramp. 
    • Sounds like suicidal death metal and it is quite disturbing.  It is a shame that someone who breathes longs to end that breathing.  Even worse, is to solicit others to join you.  Not into this kind of song. Cannot leave any words of encouragement. 
    •   You mentioned it was long, and I would agree with you.  Here's an idea:  just use the first half of the second verse, then Go back into the first chorus.  Then, use the first half of the third verse, followed by the first half of the fourth verse, and then the chorus again.     this might keep it a bit longer, but if you wanted to keep the part about court, you could add it as a bridge?  Then do the last chorus.  Just an idea . Some of the verses seemed a bit repetitive in subject matter, like the second verse.  Doing it this way might make it more concise, as well as give us more of the chorus.   (Sorry I am being long winded, haha! .    Here is also an idea for the chorus that I feel would make it a bit more interesting:   He's the alpha male, driven to prevail.
      It's embedded in his DNA
      He's the alpha male.  He's gonna' blaze a trail.  
      burned into the book of fate   This is a bit more catchy, and makes it breath a little bit.  It makes me want to clap along     Just some food for thought =)         
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